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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:36:00 -
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Please no compulsory WiS. I want to fly space ships, not dress up. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:08:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:Please no compulsory WiS. I want to fly space ships, not dress up. Typical example of an average incarna whine post.  "Oh noez! If ccp enables players to walk in stationz I won't be able to fly my cuddly widdle space ship anymoar..."
Try reading.
You can walk around all you like. As long as i don't have too. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:29:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:Please no compulsory WiS. I want to fly space ships, not dress up. Yet you took the trouble to create your character, dress him up, create your avatar and create a nice picture for your profile. You already play dress up!
Turns out you can't create a character otherwise. I used the random buttons. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2014.01.06 10:07:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
It worked out well for you., you must have posed it though. Don't you identify with your character in game though? Does your character mean anything to you at all?
I wouldn't say that. I found it annoying to the point the first time i just didn't bother joining. I would have played eve a good 3-4 months sooner without it.
I don't want to wait 5 min each time i undock for the "walk down the hall and hop in your pod" animation. I don't want to have some crappy virtual bar where... where nothing really going to happen since we all do interact with chat channels, voice coms etc. Its like trying to force the meta game to be in game. It won't work. So then is 99% cosmetic. At which point what is the point.
However before you all flame away, My requirement is that it is not *mandatory*. If you want to wait 5min every time you undock, or 10 min to find something in the market because you like second life in space, be my guest. Just don't make me do it. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2014.01.21 00:44:00 -
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Burning Bob wrote:
.... Ship spinning is boring and pacing in a room isn't any better. I want a better distraction than neurotically checking things or tabing out. I just want them to finish what they started. Let us go to bars or casinos or what ever. Let us talk to the dust bunnies in person. Give us a distraction from pacing or spinning...
If your spending a lots of time spinning ships and just generally logged in doing nothing but waiting for skill ques. Your doing it wrong.
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2014.01.21 23:09:00 -
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I'm in a WH corp and spend time in nullsec. When i need to wait. I do something in RL. WiS is hardly a fix for waiting for something to happen. Esp if it has no meaning. Really how is alt-tabbing to second life a problem anyway? How many games should eve be? |
Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.01.22 09:31:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:
C: Assuming devs working on WiS could have been retasked for the regular game, assumed a staggering amount. Devs on this level tend to be specialized, and this was like expecting a plumber to be able to fix your car by comparison.
Clearly you know nothing about programming. It is nothing like that "specialized" and when it comes to maintaining code you typically work on any code that has the bugs. You don't have "fields" within programming and dev work.
I have worked for telecos, banks, game companies, sat nav companies done contract work in just about every area. I have needed to do graphics work, fairly advanced math, boring business logic applications, billing systems, switching code, etc.
I am pretty typical for a developer with the exception that i have some education in advance math and physics. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2014.01.25 14:17:00 -
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So your argument that programers are very specialized, so it cost nothing for EVE online to be generic? As in second life in space as well as space combat game.
A little 101 economics. Everything has an opportunity cost. Spending money on specialized developer's for your second life clone is money not spent on developers for other parts of eve.
Your argument that because developers are so specialized it cost nothing is stupid. Its more expensive and an even bigger waste of money since this is now a bunch of workers who can never work on the core game if needed. |
Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:13:00 -
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Nikk Narrel you are ignoring my claim. That putting money into WiS takes money away from other more core things that makes eve eve.
WiS is not free, cannot be free. There is cost. Costs such as not fixing TiDi or whatever. |
Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.01.26 09:14:00 -
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Opportunity costs are not subjective. If i spend a million dollars for one year on WiS "specialists"*, that is a million dollars i can't spend on "fixing TiDi" specialists. Its completely quantifiable. Even if you assert 100% specialized programmers.
Worse in this case in that you may not be able to fire these programmers after you realized you screwed up sinking money into WiS. Perhaps next time less specialized programmers would be a better economic choice.
However there is more. Integrating WiS into the rest of the code base is also not free. You can't just have WiS bolted onto the side for free. It has to integrate with everything else in eve. And now your using all the other people to integrate code for WiS instead of working on better things. More eve like things.
* A million dollars is not even 10 programmers at 100k + overheads.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.01.26 16:44:00 -
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Burning Bob wrote:
Then by your logic they should never add anything new to the game because it would take away from balancing things and fixing bugs.
You are having reading comprehension issues. I never said that. What i said was that there is a real cost of adding a feature like WiS. Now is that cost worth it? I would say no in *this case* because its trying to do something eve will never be great at. WiS is a entire MMO in its own right where some of the "competition" are the biggest dev companies in the world.
Adding WiS will mean all the parts of this game that make eve, eve, will get neglected for the worse. Because then it becomes a game that has neither compelling WiS or spaceships that actually spend time undocked.
Eve is not dying.
And even if it was, WiS would not save it. |
Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.01.26 17:38:00 -
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Logic? You are not following any logic. there is no logic in "WiS costs resources better spent elsewhere" to "Never add or change anything".
As i have repeatably said I think WiS is a waste of resources. I have not made a statement about anything thing else. But i would add Dust to that. Your putting words in my mouth that just suits your argument. I think thats a strawman? Can never remember.
Show me how the huge amount of resources for WiS are justified?
If you think it won't take lots of resources then you should join every MMMO ever that has people walking around and show them how to do it without these massive teams of developers and artists. Because no one else knows how to do that. |
Delt0r Garsk
Sanctuary of Shadows
Honorable Third Party
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:13:00 -
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Lets just hope for the rest of eve, they you are kept waiting a very long time.
Why don't you play Star Citizen. I hear you can run around the station all day.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good. |
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